1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Here is morning visit with Eileen Darby. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Hello everybody. Several times in past months we've had as our guests people who have witnessed strange things. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:25,000 And some of you may remember Dr. George Hunt Williamson in particular who told us of his experiences with flying saucing or as they are called now UFOs. 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:32,000 He was one of the sworn witnesses to George's application of a lunch meeting with people who he believed came from outer space. 5 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Now this is my interview with Dr. Williamson. I've had many many letters and phone calls asking for more information about these weird, light, strange flying objects that have no reasonable explanation. 6 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:53,000 And so we have as our guests this morning the secretary of the Vancouver area flying saucer club, Herb Clark. 7 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Now Mr. Clark would you please tell us a little bit about the club. How and when did it start? 8 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Good morning Mrs. Laurie. Yes. Our club was organized at a small meeting at which 18 people were in attendance over in West Vancouver in June of 1956, almost two years ago. 9 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 How many members do you have now? 10 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:21,000 We have approximately 180 who paid you the present time. 11 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,000 Yes, quite a growth, isn't it? 12 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Yes, this has expanded quite rapidly. 13 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,000 And some of these are perhaps out of town people? 14 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:37,000 A few are. Just a few. There's some in New Westminster, some in the Langley area, and two or three over in Victoria who come over from time to time. 15 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Now what was the object of the club? 16 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:54,000 The object of the club essentially was to gather together the information available from all sources through books, magazine publications, and so on, and make these available to our members. 17 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:02,000 We have a library department and all the Jews paying members are entitled to take books out from this library without charge. 18 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Further to correlate local information on sightings and make it available to our own members and to other UFO publications and groups throughout America and elsewhere. 19 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,000 Now you exchange information with different groups in other parts of the world. 20 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,000 That is right. 21 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Now you have there, I see, an argument from a very official first. 22 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Would you mind giving us that paragraph that you read just before we started recording? 23 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:39,000 We would like to tell you first that this is delinked with an incident which occurred in January of this year. 24 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:48,000 When Major Donald E. Kehoe, retired from the United States Marine Corps, and now author of three books on the flying saucer phenomenon, 25 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:58,000 who is now the director of the Civilian Organization National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena in Washington, D.C., 26 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:08,000 was speaking on the Armstrong Circle Theater over CBS Network when his voice was faded off the air. 27 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Many, many inquiries came in as a result of this. 28 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Up here, their bulletin dated March 5th, which contains the sentence, 29 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:25,000 which Major Kehoe was endeavoring to ad-lib into his official script during the transmission. 30 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:31,000 It read as follows, I try to ad-lib this statement on the Armstrong program quote, 31 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:41,000 In the last six months, we, the National Investigations Committee, have been working with the Senate Committee investigating official secrecy on UFOs. 32 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:54,000 If openly hearings are held, I feel it will prove beyond doubt that the flying saucers are real machines under intelligence control, end quote. 33 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Well, that is for his statement, and I have read across a few of Dr. R. R. Major Kehoe's books, 34 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,000 and I know that he never makes a statement without a complete investigation. 35 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:18,000 And now, I have heard just recently that Mr. R. R. Demke's strange experience has now been acknowledged and accepted by the US government. Is that so? 36 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Well, thank you. We have very interesting documentation to indicate that that is so. 37 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:33,000 To conclude on Major Kehoe, I might just add that the sentence I have read has since been on the air over an ABC network program, 38 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:39,000 which was broadcast on March the 8th, so it has since been clarified and publicized. 39 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Yes, our current issue of British Flying Saucer Review from London, England states on page two of this issue, 40 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:53,000 with the headline, Aizing Letter Reveals Confirmatory Evidence of Adasky Claims. 41 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,000 The US government has evidence of extraterrestrials. 42 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Now, it states that in this article they cannot give the department from which the letter was received, or the designer of the letter, 43 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 but they give this quotation from it stating that they have seen it. Quote, 44 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:22,000 It will no doubt please you to know that this blank department has on file a great deal of confirmatory evidence bearing up to your own claims, 45 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:28,000 which as both of us must realize are controversial and have been disputed generally. 46 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:34,000 While certainly this blank department cannot publicly confirm your experiences, 47 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:44,000 it can, I believe with propriety, encourage your work and your communication of what you sincerely believe should be told to our American public. 48 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Now, the sequel to that is a late news item on the back page of this issue, edited Adasky, C page two. 49 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:58,000 George Adasky has now authorized press release of US government letter. 50 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:08,000 It was from the Department of State, Washington, and was signed by Mr. R. E. Smith, Cultural Exchange Committee. 51 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:12,000 The full text of the letter will be published in our next issue. 52 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Well, now that appeared then that there are several official investigations going on at the present time. 53 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Now you have also a very unusual document from South Africa. Could you just read us briefly one or two paragraphs in that? 54 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Mrs. Lurie, we'd be very pleased to. This has been received by registered mail from Mrs. Elizabeth Plower of Johannesburg, South Africa within the last few weeks. 55 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:44,000 This was an incident which occurred approximately six months ago. 56 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:59,000 She claims to have been picked up by a scout ship or small reconnaissance space ship from another world on the Drackensburg range behind her sister's place in Rosetta, South Africa. 57 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:07,000 There was no sense of motion within the pressurized cabin. I was watching the earth proceeding through the television as simply a wonderful sight. 58 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:16,000 It was clear South African weather immediately below, but miles away in the distant clouds covered the surface, shining white in the sunlight. 59 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Sea was now leaden or slate colored, but the sun shining on it and there was a haziness, almost a whiteness reflecting from the horizon which had become curved. 60 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Surface features now could hardly be seen. Mousins looked like shadows or wrists and there was a ring of mousins that formed a perfect circle like looking at a crater on the moon. 61 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,000 The shores of the South African continent could still be seen against the blackness of the sea. 62 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:52,000 In the outer fringes of the atmosphere where the surface of the earth is still visible, there is a beautiful deep blue, a royal blue band that seems to circle the earth. 63 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,000 I have never seen anything so beautiful. Beyond that is the blackness of space. 64 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Then against this wonderful scene, there is the aurora shifting continuously. As we rose vertically higher, the sunlight reflected from the atmosphere was dazzling and no surface features could then possibly be seen. 65 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,000 That is one paragraph from 5,000 words from Mrs. Clare. 66 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Well, Mr. Clark, I wish we had time to read the whole thing. That was fascinating. Now one quick question. Where and where do the Flying Saucer Club meetings take place? 67 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:43,000 The Flying Saucer Club meetings take place on the first Tuesday of each month. And during the last year, we have used the Peter Pan Ballroom at 1636 West Broadway, just half a block west of the big new administration building of the school board. 68 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:57,000 Thank you very much, Mr. Clark, for a most interesting visit. Our guest is the Mr. Cruz Clark Secretary of the day, Super Flying Saucer Club, and if any of you have seen any unidentified flying objects, Mr. Clark would like to hear from you. 69 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:07,000 And now I want to come to River and very possibly we'll see some very identifiable flying objects when Ripple Rock pulls up tomorrow. And this is Adi, Laurie Say, bye now.